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AthendoreII MP edition

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Violet Lev
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Ruleset: AoW: SM - Unofficial Patch 1.4
Map Size: XL
Levels: 2
Single Player?: Yes
Co-Op vs. AI?: Yes
PBEM/Hotseat?: Yes
Multiplayer Online?: Yes
# of Wizards: 8
# of players: 8
Skill Level: Expert
Password Protected: No
After many years of infinite war, two mighty alliances were broken and former allies declared war to each other!

Multiplayer modification of Athendore II by Queen Elquein

All races are playable now.
A few changes were made.
Wizard towers could be built only in towns that have it already with small exceptions.
Some towns are razed and nothing could be build there.
Some magic nodes were added to the map.
Some bridges, underground entrances and teleports were added.

Note: all wizards got additional skill points, edit it out for human wizards when playing against ai. Good races still can hire super heroes from original Athendore II.

Feedback about balance on AthendoreII as mp map is welcome.
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I assume you have permission from Elquein to upload the map? It may be kind to mention the author's name. Not everyone knows...
Violet Lev
File Author
I assume that everybody should know original map from legend aow mapmaker. It is multiplayer modification, nothing more. Everybody can do it, it is technical.
Anyway I added links to original map.

[Edited on 05/17/09 @ 05:32 PM]

Sunicle Violet Lev, the question whether you had permission you're not answering positively, and without that permission this is not the right thing to do.
I'm sure you mean no disrespect to the original map and the original author, but you're not in your right when Elquein makes a fuss, and I think this kind of edited maps by different people are polluting the database.
Sorry to sound harsh, but this is not a good practice, and I would advise people not to download this map.
Violet Lev
File Author
We have already modification of this map for aowsw patch 1.4 with changes. And the map is not password protected. Author left community long ago, do not you know. Do we need to bother people for now useless for them reasons?
Sunicle Elquein had put her name down for the recent mapmaking competition.
technomancer As Violet Lev correctly stated there are already modified versions of the map available (modded by NaecO and PawelS, published by Dafyth), so what is all the excitement about if I may ask ?

Anyway, @Violet Lev:
Did you base your modified map on "Athendore 2.1 SM edit" or did you use the original one ?
How well is it tested (escpecially in terms of balance), if any ?
Nice idea though, thx !

Violet Lev
File Author
It would be so great if author of the map will really return, but she did not present any map for competition. Maybe this modification can help it.
This modification is based on sm version, but it is not important. The map is balanced if AI play all sides. It is hard to say if it is balanced for human players. It is very much depends on their skill level and playing style. The game coud turn anyway depends of how people play it. Domains are big and full of stuff, cities, artifacts etc so hard to say who has advantage.
Really it is smallest modification, 0.01%.

[Edited on 05/18/09 @ 09:40 AM]

Sunicle Care needs to be taken when doing something like this. Respect the authorship of a mapmaker! What other people have done in the past doesn't matter that much. I don't know how the previous edition of Athendore came about, but there are examples where making alternative versions of someone else's work without permission wasn't well received. I'll give this example from another game:
Well, I find the responses in that thread a little bit overdone, but in principle they're right.

[Edited on 05/18/09 @ 01:31 PM]

Violet Lev
File Author
By the way, if I would not get any feedback about balance on AthendoreII as mp map, I will remove the map myself. No sense to upload something here. I always got some strange feedback when upload anything here.
naeco What a nice surprise, I actually come here to look for the Athendore II map (haven't been here for quite a while) :)

Except the part where V.L supposed that everyone must know Athendore and did not put in the credit and link to original map, I think is ok. It is however preferable that the authors should be noticed about updates concerning her map.
By the way, I read Queen Elquein latest posts (about a year or so ago) and understand that she's making a new Athendore-like map for aow:sm.

@Violet Lev: As it is a MP version, it will take a very long time to get the balance feedback, unless the map is played online or in LAN game. Good news is that the PBEM and online community is close, everyone knows each other, so you will probably know the feedbacks before they get here.

Almost forget, could you put on a list of changes that you've made?
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