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Menzoberranzan vs Mithral Hall V 4.0

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Ruleset: AoW: SM - Unofficial Patch 1.4
Map Size: S
Levels: 3
Single Player?: No
Co-Op vs. AI?: No
PBEM/Hotseat?: Yes
Multiplayer Online?: Yes
# of Wizards: 2
# of players: 2
Skill Level: Expert
Password Protected: No
V 4.0 having played now several pbem´s on the map and received much feedback, I decided to do one (probably last) update. Not much has changed, life has been made a bit easier for the shadow hero of the Dark elves (some more and stronger units to recruit in the first recruitment site) and I added some messages regarding Drizzt & Gromph in order to make some things clearer...
V 3.0
-> many many bugs had to be removed and the AI was again spiced up so if you found 2.0 challenging, you´ll find 3.0 impossible.
V 2.0
Some changes were done in regards to map design, for example one drow (dark Elf) hero was placed in the shadow and one Dwarfen Hero was placed on the surface for the simple reason that those two levels get also explored in 1:1 human games.

Playing against AI should be much more fun now as well as I spiced up the game with a lot of events that make the AI´s life much easier and make them much stronger.
(events can never compensate completely for the renowned and fabled stupidity of the AI, of course...)
Short info what this map is about (for those who don´t have already an idea from the map title.... ;)

This map takes place in the Forgotten Realms setting of the D&D World.
It´s all about the legendary Battle of Keeper’s Dale: Drow (Dark elves) against the Dwarves of Mithral Hall.

House Baenre, Leading noble house of Menzoberrranzan - the most famous and biggest drow (dark elven) town in the Forgotten Realms, leads an army of drow, goblins, and kobolds and other interesting creatures out of Menzoberranzan to attack the dwarves of Mithral Hall.
The dwarves, led by King Bruenor Battlehammer, are aided by troops from the surface towns Nesmé and Silverymoon, and even the mysterious Harpells of Longsaddle and Lady Alustriel herself.

In the original setting (to be read in the Forgotten realms Novel 'Siege of Darkness'), the drow were defeated and driven back to Menzoberranzan.

In this scenario, the outcome of this ultimate battle might be totally different?!

It´s an epic battle!
What offers this map?

- for it´s small size, it offers quite some complexity. Many options for both sides to gain powerful allies, and some allies of one party are foes of the other and vice versa...
- Multiple ways how to approach eachother
- Playes don´t start from scrap but both start with powerful realms and heroes making it a high-end epic battle from the very beginning.
- event-driven variety in gameplay often with player or situation-dependent event-outcome.

have fun! I myself had fun on making this map since it´s one of the last special map-projects that have been circling in my brain since several years...
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ibobs I sadistically thought of posting review... All 3's would do right? ;) But I won't as this makes my map look like the poor cousin!!! (Damn, damn, damn...)

Good stuff, will play and review (properly) if course!
File Author
;-) thanks man!
But please don´t play against the AI, that´s a waste of time and will most probably result in a 3-score at best since the AI will not stand the slightest chance in this map. IT CAN ONLY BE PLAYED ONE vs ONE - no doubt about that.
luke811 4 new pretty good maps :) i'll try it out ;)
File Author
Hey there,
If anybody tried (or wants to try) this map in 1:1 mode (not against AI!!) it would be very nice to get some feedback in regards to BALANCE. Any hint/info would be very welcome.

ibobs Already said I would!I'll play dwarves.

[Edited on 05/24/09 @ 11:56 AM]

File Author
Ok, let´s start a game with the two of us now (I´ve had enough long breaks in other games already, so who cares...? ;-)
Map Design5.0
Playability: 5
This is a good map. It is a bit cluttered to start, but you soon get past that.

Balance: 4
I have the feeling that the dark elf have the slight advantage for two reasons.
1) the recruitment armies seem a little more powerful - or at least more obvious.
2) more than point 1, the dark elf have 3 cities with towers to start. The dwarves have to branch out to different places to get help, but in both the games I played, the dark elves can just march through the centre with what they have and win.

Creativity: 5
You have made a concept map that is of very high quality and very in depth.

Map Design: 5
One comment though is that most of the map goes unused as the underground holds the key to victory with aggressive players. I know this was for tournament play, but for outside this, it seems to be a waste. :)

Story/Instructions: 4
See above.

Additional Comments:
Well made! Well done!

[Edit] Slight rerate on story. I really want to put 4.5 for balance and 4.5 for story, but there you go. One 4 and one 5.

[Edited on 06/29/12 @ 10:07 AM]

Ikki Managed to bind the dragon... after that it was kinda of super easy :P

Playing Mithrilhall and the free peoples of Luruar. (althought tempted to.. tie them into a .. _closer_relationship_.. to mithrilhall)

Anyways, ive managed to find drizzit, harkle and even rescued Quenthel (ahem..), however did that by accident using inferor troops, not the ancient dragon that was otherwise busy scourging hell.
And just might have dominated Errtu to serve the Dwarven-Uthgar empire. Nowadays the barbarians have a bunch of new cities... and Buenor is Neutral :p

Stealing the holy avenger & armor was easy. Just summoned some boars ontop of those.. teleport item & suicide attack. Repeat.

But. How in the rear wart of asmodeus am i supposed to get to Gromph Baenre, master of sorcere??? Ive tried everything.. as dwarves or as drow.
File Author
Hi Ikki,

from what ur writing, I highly assume, you were playing alone against AI, right? otherwise I would be astonished how you managed to do all those things without being crushed by your (human) opponent...
ragarding your comments/question:
First: Thanks for the hint with the holy avenger / armor. A beginners mistake :( obviously I simply missed to put an Anti-magic tile on those, dammit. Sooner or later there will be an updated version anyway, I´ll change that.
And yes - maybe I should also change the dragon, I was already thinking about replacing it by a black one...
and last but not least - Gromph... hehe... well, obviously you haven´t tried EVERYTHING, hehe... or you were not attentive in a certain situation...
but eventually he will join ;-)
Ikki yeah, ai. I dont do humans :P
Oh and I found out that its perfectly possible to entirely eradicate a city with cityquakes. Didnt know that before :P

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